Some day real soon I'll be able to make the front-page tree control display the group data... sigh. For some reason the group-data recorder refuses to actually insert any data (though it will insert empty records). I'm suspecting a problem in the database definition (i.e. lack of a unique key) as the code all seems to work fine. That's first up when I get the day started (argh, in 18 minutes, need to get moving).