North Americans really suck at communication (Maybe the rest of the world too...)
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Have been vicariously living through a friend who is extricating herself from a job where the working environment went off the cliff a few months ago. I'm often amazed at how bad communication is in most organisations...
Then, this evening, I realised something; we have a 50% divorce rate. That is, with the simplest dynamic you can imagine (that is, the smallest number of people possible), we only manage to avoid complete dissolution of the relationship in one out of every two situations.
Small wonder that corporations of thousands of employees seem so disfunctional.
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Mike C. Fletcher, the VRPlumber, is a philosopher of design turned computer programmer based in Toronto, Canada. He works primarily in the Python programming language, and maintains a large number of Open Source software packages. You can reach him at: mcfletch@vrplumber.com.
x on 09/07/2004 8:14 p.m. #
I haven't time to be posting all these comments, btw. Speaking of communication!<br />
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But anyhow, truly, right around the time you would have been posting this give or take some hours (and a day), I was just musing to Selena how I had calculated (i'm not sure why) that my family is pretty close to right on the divorce rate. <br />
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Mom & Dad - Divorced<br />
Austrialian Aunt & Uncle - Widowed (not divoced)<br />
Cousin J & ? - seperated, almost divorced, but not<br />
Cousin S & ? - divorced /w 2 pre-teen kids<br />
Uncle J & D - divorced (off with a younger woman)<br />
Uncle B & E - not divorced<br />
Material grandparents - not divorced (grandfather died relatively young -- well, in his 50's)<br />
Paternal grandfolks - never divorced, nor even formally separated: but maintaining seperate residences and mostly seemingly despising each other)<br />
Aunt C & ? - never married, but several kids, lived with a few guys for long periods (does that count?)<br />
Aunt S & ? - divorced<br />
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Hmm, i've lost count. <br />
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On Selena's side, much less divorce. <br />
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Hmm, wait. This maybe should be in your way-too-much-info department. I haven't time to be posting all these comments, btw. Speaking of communication!<br />
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But anyhow, truly, right around the time you would have been posting this give or take some hours (and a day), I was just musing to Selena how I had calculated (i'm not sure why) that my family is pretty close to right on the divorce rate. <br />
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Mom & Dad - Divorced<br />
Austrialian Aunt & Uncle - Widowed (not divoced)<br />
Cousin J & ? - seperated, almost divorced, but not<br />
Cousin S & ? - divorced /w 2 pre-teen kids<br />
Uncle J & D - divorced (off with a younger woman)<br />
Uncle B & E - not divorced<br />
Material grandparents - not divorced (grandfather died relatively young -- well, in his 50's)<br />
Paternal grandfolks - never divorced, nor even formally separated: but maintaining seperate residences and mostly seemingly despising each other)<br />
Aunt C & ? - never married, but several kids, lived with a few guys for long periods (does that count?)<br />
Aunt S & ? - divorced<br />
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Hmm, i've lost count. <br />
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On Selena's side, much less divorce. <br />
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Hmm, wait. This maybe should be in your way-too-much-info department.
x on 09/07/2004 10:43 p.m. #
Hmm, i see what you mean about the double posts... though not really double posts, but merely the text in the single comments field doubled. Interesting. Never seen that before. It seems the first one i posted didn't do it; the second two did. Wonder if this will (fresh browser instance). We shall see.
x on 09/07/2004 10:52 p.m. #
(Seems not to be posting double now; that old browser instance must have been suffering communications problems... overly enthusiastic to communicate...)<br />
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Yeah, so on topic though: my sister and I are married (not to each other). Statistically one of our marriages won't make it. It seems rather extremely unlikely that either of these will fail though; the personalities involved are much different than all of the (bad) examples above. Also the basis for the marriages, the level of self-awareness, one might consider philosophical outlook, and even possibly even just the ages of the participants in the marriages... but who really knows. <br />
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Ah well, to keep up the stats Selena's sister can get divorced (if she marries); and my sister's kids (if she has any).... that should even things out.<br />
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Wouldn't want things to be uneven. <br />
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Though this sort of evenness is fairly depressing.<br />
Mike Fletcher on 09/08/2004 1:53 p.m. #
Near as I can figure it we have 3 out of a total of 8 marriages dissolved in our family. Small family, at least those I know enough about to count divorces.
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